that is the environment these to the ground up again. stuart: you are conservative. >> i man independent free-market thinker. stuart: good luck getting elected to anything with the point of view that says more responsibly, try harder, strive, get up in the world. that is the old-fashioned way. that just lost the last election. >> we need to frame it in more opportunities society instead of saying it might be hard but look at the amazing opportunity the system can create for young people. i ask young people all the time you want to start a small business? i want to work with somebody. why don't you want to take a risk? i don't know if i should do it. we should promote risk-taking. sandra: the news with -- [talking over each other] >> a lot of interesting things and teaching young people that the society of free markets and capitalism is going to bring more opportunity rather than government handout. stuart: when you got an extra two minutes. we did -- that was very good. thank you very much. president obama sine die five your extension of